Ancien joueur : Luis Suarez > Barcelone

[Emlyn Crazy Horse]

ce matin ma femme avec amour m'a servi mon p'ti noir , a midi pour l'apéro elle me sert mon p'ti jaune , et à table un p'ti coup d'blanc ....

maintenant je vais devoir revoir tout mon vocabulaire , quand le ciel sera nuagueux je ne pourrais plus dire qu'il fait gris , désormais les rapports humains

sont en revanche bien assombris

et avec tout cela te voila vert de rage !

[Brittanyred]

Fergie soutient naturellement Evra et la FA, mais l'intérêt est dans sa précision sur le temps qu'avait mis la FA pour donner le document sur la peine de 4 matchs infligée à Evra. Plus de quinze jours. Il n'avait pas apprécié (petite pique pour la FA en passant, quand même )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16325493.stm

Je n'aime pas çà du tout : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2078213/Luis-Suarez-ups-ante-bitter-Liverpool-v-United-rivalry.html

[Brittanyred]

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/breaking-news-newspaper-banned-from.html?

[Brittanyred]

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/breaking-news-newspaper-banned-from.html?

[Emlyn Crazy Horse]

Après The Sun un nouveau boycott..

[Brittanyred]

Au milieu de cette longue page, quelques développements intéressants. Qu'est-ce que c'est compliqué autour du terme Negro. Incroyable : http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/mytpz/i_see_your_negro_and_raise_you_a_negrito/

l'extrait brut :

[–]smurfpiss 52 points 20 jours de ça

Negrito is not seen as a racist term in South America. Negro is Spanish for black, so why would it? Well marketing candy as Negrito (little black) is a whole different ball game, granted, but this is the weird bit; It's totally cool, not offensive at all, to call someone black as negro. As in "hey negro come over here a second." often the word is used with affection. There's still some stereotyping going on here, but it's apparently not a big deal.

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[–]coolstrybro 10 points 20 jours de ça

Well, remember that commercial for "Negrito" where with each bite the kid gets a bigger afro? yeah...yeah... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJSZstj0KE oh Bimbo... Then again, I never thought it was racist when I lived in Mexico.

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[–]gaygineer 4 points 20 jours de ça*

That commercial is saying that the afro is cool. It's not trying to be offensive. I think it'd similar to a drink marketed towards skaters that gives you shades and a backwards cap. Yeah it's a stereotype but not an offensive one.

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[–]smurfpiss 5 points 20 jours de ça

Nope, but that sounds awesome!

EDIT: ah you edited your post to include the video. will take a look now.

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[–]jmmarzec 2 points 20 jours de ça

thats not necessarily true. I live in Ecuador, and people often call each other 'negro' as a term of endearment, but they never say it to a black person they dont know. For example, you'd probably get punched in the face if you said, "oye negro" to a black stranger.

And on a separate but related note, Latin Americans can be extremely racist, just in a different way than in the US or Europe. Do your research people. 75% of black people in Ecuador are poor. SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT. The racism is so blatant here, its disgusting.

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[–]Hrethric -1 point 20 jours de ça

What percentage of white people in Ecuador are poor? What percentage of Native Americans in Ecuador are poor?

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[–]jmmarzec 0 point 20 jours de ça

I know that Indigenous peoples of Ecuador are about equally impoverished as blacks (about 70-80%). I'm not sure about mestizo/whites but I'm sure its much less. The overall poverty rate for Ecuador is about 44%. These statistics really demonstrate the racism shown towards Indigenous and Black peoples in Ecuador. About 25% of Ecuadorians are of direct Indigenous decent (mostly in the Andes) where as only about 5% of the population is Afro-Ecuadorian (mostly on the coast). The majority of the poor Indigenous groups live in rural areas, where as many afro-ecuadorians live in cities. Statistics become complicated in a country like Ecuador because there has been mixing for hundreds of years (much more progressive than mixing in the US) and about 2/3 of the population is considered "mestizo" or "cholo".

tl;dr: theres a shit ton of racism towards indigenous peoples as well as blacks and I could go on and on about why but I won't (unless you ask).

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[–]Hrethric 1 point 18 jours de ça

Wow, I wasn't really expecting an answer, let alone detailed statistics, thanks.

If you were to write such a thing, I would find it interesting, because it's always interesting to learn new things about places one has never been. Your effort would be lost on me, though, as I have no personal connection to Ecuador whatsoever.

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[–]urrutia86 5 points 20 jours de ça

Yes... it is a term of endearment in spanish.

There is a beautiful piece for guitar with that name. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQFSLPD59CU

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[–]whatsakeyboard 0 point 20 jours de ça

nice. I first thought of was the poem/song thingy

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[–]monodelab 14 points 20 jours de ça*

Yup, "negro" is a common word in spanish speaker world, and an usual nickname without racist connotations... except in Argentina. They are the only of us that use the word in the same way that the english term "nigger", even, it's their most common insult.

Edit: Ok, many Argentine brothers (i'm mexican) posted here that "negro" is not just a term to say "black people". But that is exactly the point: they are the only spanish speakers that use the word "black" with negative means: if you are a non-white (afro, mulato, indigenous), poor or uneducated people, you are a "negro". In any other countries the word has other mean that just "black people".

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[–]Ikus13 21 points 20 jours de ça

It probably has something to do with Argentinians annihilating most blacks and indians in the country.

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[–]GauchoFromLaPampa 7 points 20 jours de ça

Dont downvote him for speaking the truth, see Conquest of the Desert That was the campaign led by general Julio Argentino Roca. Is funny because we have his portrait in our $100 pesos bills.

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[–]WalterFStarbuck 6 points 20 jours de ça

The US has Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill. He was the most genocidal president in US history and is responsible for the infamous "Trail of Tears."

In general he was a really great president known for a lot of major accomplishments for modern concepts of liberty in America, at least when he wasn't a genocidal maniac.

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[–]Magres 1 point 20 jours de ça

In a way his genocidal mania can be viewed as a presidential accomplishment, because it, in part, plowed the way for American expansion. From a strictly "What is good for America, fuck morality and fuck everyone who is not an American citizen" point of view, this is a good thing. I'm not defending him, I swear, it's just a thought I had that I found interesting.

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[–]zuperxtreme 2 points 20 jours de ça

In Argentina it's both actually. Negro in an affectionate way and as a derragoratery term.

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[–]rolfo87 8 points 20 jours de ça

yup, not only negro; in peru we also use the terms chino, cholo, gringo without any racist undertones or anything. we just kinda get along.

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[–]Treselak 2 points 20 jours de ça

It's the same way in Russia. The way to refer to a black person in Russian is "негр" or "Nyegar" phonetically and it's fine since there's no racial connotation there either. Or so I've been told by my Russian professor (who is actually Russian).

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[–]Rivfader 10 points 20 jours de ça

"негр" or "Nyegar" phonetically

I'll never look at rage comics the same again.

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[–]Pk_JoA 1 point 20 jours de ça

As some people pointed out, it is not quite simple.

I have a friend who we call "El negro" (the black one), and it is totally fine.

And if you hear actually someone insulting other person for being a "negro", they are not talking about the color of their skin at all, but rather of their social class (which doesn't make it better, just different from the english term negro)

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[–]ALGUIENoALGO 0 point 20 jours de ça

but in argentina negro is most used for indian people or poor people not for afroamericans

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[–]Joxemiarretxe 0 point 20 jours de ça

Er. No. Negro is more of a classist term than anything, with racist roots. Calling everyone who is poor a black person is sort of wrong, but "negro" in Argie Spanish would no translate to "nigger" in English.

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[–]Niubai 2 points 20 jours de ça

In Brazil, there's a mix of chocolate and marshmallow called "Teta de nega" (black woman tits) and there's a cookie called "Negresco". Both are delicious.

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[–]ThomasMenegazzo 1 point 20 jours de ça

Man, negresco is my favorite cookie, i love it.

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[–]otakuman 4 points 20 jours de ça

The old versions of the "negrito" had a bald cuban stereotype with striped shirt. Cubans were practically the only kind of black people you would see in Mexico.

And the older versions were worse: It was an African cannibal.

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[–]philistineinquisitor 0 point 20 jours de ça

There are colonies of negros in Mexico but they're extremely few and no one knows about them. One of them is in Oaxaca iirc.

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[–]chileconcarne 1 point 20 jours de ça

Whenever my aunts/uncles send us gifts (I live in the US) they send Negritas. They're ridiculously delicious. Once you go negrita, you never come back.

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[–]momox 1 point 20 jours de ça

Of course anything with ito at the end is fine in Spanish

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[–]teganyavo 4 points 20 jours de ça

I wish someone would tell the English Football Association that

liverpool #luissuarez

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[–]Cullly 1 point 20 jours de ça

CTRL+F "Suarez" and this is all I get.

sorry teganyavo, but you'll have to accept my upvote.

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[–]laidback_pabs 0 point 20 jours de ça

I second this. Having grown up in a spanish speaking country almost everyone at school went by a nickname or their last name. One of my good friends' nicknames was 'negro' and it was an endearing term. No one ever got offended or had a problem with that.

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[–]Duendeee 0 point 20 jours de ça

Yeah, actually some friends call me ¨negro¨ even though I am not African american. It´s just a nickname for people with slightly dark colored skin, and no it is not offensive at all. It´s just the opposite of ¨guero¨ which means blonde.

[Emlyn Crazy Horse]

et dire que pendant ce temps.....

[Brittanyred]

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/17/sport/soccer-word-controversy/index.html

[Brittanyred]

et dire que pendant ce temps.....

Il veut être noir mais pas pour les capacités intellectuelles et universitaires manifestement. On frise la discrimination...

[Brittanyred]

Negro, Negrito, Negrita (1 verre ca va)... Franchement, c'est le problème le plus complexe que j'ai vu dans le genre. Terry a côté c'est simple.

[Brittanyred]

Sans oublier l'image (ici la plus récente, sans le "y'a bon...") que détestait le plus Leopold Sedhar Senghor, grand écrivain français et premier président du Sénégal.

[Invité Red_Spirit]

Le produit Negrito c'est quand même Evra tout craché faut qu'il demande des droits d'image

[Brittanyred]

Et bientôt, la Corse changera de drapeau...

[reda-kun]

Sans oublier l'image (ici la plus récente, sans le "y'a bon...") que détestait le plus Leopold Sedhar Senghor, grand écrivain français et premier président du Sénégal.

Pour la quatrième c'est carrément raciste puisque ce qu'il y a écrit en arabe c'est quand même "la laine de l'esclave" ...

[Brittanyred]

Pour la quatrième c'est carrément raciste puisque ce qu'il y a écrit en arabe c'est quand même "la laine de l'esclave" ...

!!!!

Confondant. Merci pour l'info.

[Emlyn Crazy Horse]

Le plus simple pour Luis , utiliser des patchs...

[reda-kun]

Petite question : Si on fait appel es ce qu'il y aura gel de la suspension de Suarez et il pourra jouer en attendant un nouveau verdict ?

[kikinou]

Oui

[reda-kun]

Cool

[Juice]

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/lawyer-blasts-luis-suarez-should-face.html

Parti comme ca ils vont rétablir la peine de mort rien que pour Luis ...

[Brittanyred]

Parti comme c'est on sait que ca va se finir par des procès à rallonge. C'est regrettable.

[Brittanyred]

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/lawyer-blasts-luis-suarez-should-face.html

Parti comme ca ils vont rétablir la peine de mort rien que pour Luis ...

Les quatre articles en lien sous l'article sont eux-mêmes des must-read.

[Candy]

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/lawyer-blasts-luis-suarez-should-face.html

Parti comme ca ils vont rétablir la peine de mort rien que pour Luis ...

... avec Terry qui déclenchera la guillotine.

[KoinKoin]

... avec Terry qui déclenchera la guillotine.

Ne vous enflammez pas.

Je ne connais pas précisement la justice britannique, cependant si les élements avait été assez probant, le parquet se serait chargez de l'affaire bien plus tot. (et je ne doute pas qu'evra aurais porté plainte si il était sur de gagné dans les instances civils). Ce qui prouve bien que le jugement de la FA est "discutable" dans la mesure ou aucune juridiction publique n'a estimé que cela vallait une poursuite....

[lfc42]

Il a pris un match pour le geste de Fulham! Il ne jouera pas vendredi, accepte la décision

Modifié le 28 décembre 2011 par lfc42